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FSGROUP Full Member Offline No personal text Posts: 179 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Jan 14^th, 2004	application changes color on its own Mar 24^th, 2004 at 6:22pm	Print Post
	i know that sounds ridiculous, but i've experienced this strangeness twice already. I have made zero changes to the background/fill color in Designer, but the app. on the Server's color changed. My app froze in Sesame, so I had to go into Server admin (from another client machine) and shut it down. When I reopened another app. on Sesame, it's back/fill color is changed (on its own!!). I even opened it in Designer (thru Redesign application) and sure enough, the colors are all messed up. and there has been absolutely no changes made to the .dsr file!


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PeterG Member Offline No personal text Posts: 11 Joined: Jan 19^th, 2004	Re: application changes color on its own Reply #1 - Mar 25^th, 2004 at 6:22pm	Print Post
	I found a similar (same?) thing happening when I inserted a subform into the form. When the subform is visible, all of the backfill in the LE's below the subform take on a different color. Take the subform away and everything is normal. Scroll the page down so you can't see the subform and everything is normal. Can't figure it out.


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Hammer YaBB Administrator Lanticans Offline Fire bad. Tree pretty. Posts: 3436 Location: Ohio Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2002	Re: application changes color on its own Reply #2 - Mar 25^th, 2004 at 6:25pm	Print Post
	There is some sort of palette collision occuring between the Form and Subform. PeterG, could you possibly send a copy of your application to support@lantica.com ? It would help us to track this down if we had an example of it to use for debug.

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Hammer YaBB Administrator Lanticans Offline Fire bad. Tree pretty. Posts: 3436 Location: Ohio Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2002	Re: application changes color on its own Reply #3 - Mar 26^th, 2004 at 6:56pm	Print Post
	Carl, Thank you for the application. We've been able to use it to confirm the palette collision. We don't know the reason yet, but have determined the cause, and boy is it weird! There is a particular shade of grey. The RGB value is 229,229,229. Get rid of this color in your Form and Subform and the problem will go away. Any other shade of grey appears to be fine. Carl, in your case, to completely eradicate the use of this color, you also need to right click on each Form and delete the Q&A drawing characters. We're now looking into why in the world this particular shade of gray is special...

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BOBSCOTT Senior Member Members Offline That Darn Computer #$X# {curse words} Posts: 1195 Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2002	Re: application changes color on its own Reply #4 - Mar 26^th, 2004 at 7:53pm	Print Post
	Quote: We're now looking into why in the world this particular shade of gray is special... Were does one go to look for an answer like that ???

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Hammer YaBB Administrator Lanticans Offline Fire bad. Tree pretty. Posts: 3436 Location: Ohio Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2002	Re: application changes color on its own Reply #5 - Mar 26^th, 2004 at 8:02pm	Print Post
	Quote: Were does one go to look for an answer like that ??? One goes to the source code, Grasshopper. The answers to all the mysteries of color palette collision lie within its murky depths. Actually, it's probably just a coincidence that this particular color is whacking things. We think we've found what's going on here. It should be fixed for the next release.

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Carl Underwood Senior Member Members Offline Posts: 1351 Location: New Hampshire Joined: Mar 11^th, 2003	Re: application changes color on its own Reply #6 - Mar 27^th, 2004 at 12:25am	Print Post
	Quote: Carl, Thank you for the application. Do you mean the "Invoice From Scratch.db" that I sent in just over a month ago, before the release of 1.0.2? Quote: It should be fixed for the next release. The specific problem I reported seems to have been fixed with the new release. Are you seeing this current problem with 1.0.2?

	Carl Underwood CDU Computer Consulting LLC Epsom, New Hampshire
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Bob_Hansen Senior Member Members Offline WOW, They have the Internet on computers now! Posts: 1861 Location: Salem, NH Joined: Nov 24^th, 2002	Re: application changes color on its own Reply #7 - Mar 27^th, 2004 at 7:07am	Print Post
	I don't know if this will be of any help......I participate in about a dozen or more forums, and cannot recall where I saw this. but sometime in the past few weeks, I found a reference from a developers group that they suddenly found that the bits for color were not in RGB sequence, but were actually in a different order like BGR or something. The problem came from Microsoft's specs which call out the "different " sequence that is most commonly referred to as RGB. It was only showing up as a problem in random cases, and took along time to identify the problem source. This is not an area of expertise for me, and you are probably already aware of Microsoft's non-RGB sequencing. I just offer it in case this applies, hopefully you will know where to look in the MS API specs to locate this. I will try to do a search on the other forums as I pass through them, maybe I will luck out and find it real quickly.
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Hammer YaBB Administrator Lanticans Offline Fire bad. Tree pretty. Posts: 3436 Location: Ohio Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2002	Re: application changes color on its own Reply #8 - Mar 27^th, 2004 at 1:02pm	Print Post
	You do NOT want to get me started on the BGR thing! I spent six tooth-grinding hours in one of my first VB development projects trying to figure why in the Sam Hill all my color settings were so bizarre. I was sitting there with a hex calculator trying to figure out if I'd suddenly lost the ability to make hex colors due to some strange brain disease! Why something called RGB, always called RGB, STILL called RGB suddenly needed to have it's values entered in alphabetical order, I have no idea. pant pant pant I'm okay now... In the case of the color issue: 1. Sorry for the mixup, Carl. It was PeterG who sent this particular app. Thank you , PeterG. 2. Yes, it can still happen in 1.0.2. Whether you see it depends on a number of factors. It only happens when the subform is not the last element on your Form. After the subform draws, using its colors, Sesame may not correctly go back to using the Parent form colors, causing the elements following the subform to draw with the wrong colors. It's taken care of now and the fix will appear in the next release.

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Steve_in_Texas Senior Member Offline No personal text Posts: 893 Location: San Antonio Joined: Feb 21^st, 2004	Re: application changes color on its own Reply #9 - Apr 10^th, 2004 at 9:40pm	Print Post
	I'm having a problem with colors in 1.0.3 I can only get the background color to be correct. Example: if Transaction = Return then @color(Price, 12,7) is giving White text on White background. It should be Bright green on white (according to my manual). All Text colors are appearing incorrectly. (Default color for Price Le is black on white. I'm trying to get red on white. Thanks, Steve in Texas


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BOBSCOTT Senior Member Members Offline That Darn Computer #$X# {curse words} Posts: 1195 Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2002	Re: application changes color on its own Reply #10 - Apr 10^th, 2004 at 10:01pm	Print Post
	Steve, I believe the manual is incorrect. if HCFA5 = "" then { @color(HCFA5,0,1) } Turns my element Red whith white text.

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Steve_in_Texas Senior Member Offline No personal text Posts: 893 Location: San Antonio Joined: Feb 21^st, 2004	Re: application changes color on its own Reply #11 - Apr 10^th, 2004 at 10:55pm	Print Post
	Thanks BobScott, your right. Steve


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Carl Underwood Senior Member Members Offline Posts: 1351 Location: New Hampshire Joined: Mar 11^th, 2003	Re: application changes color on its own Reply #12 - Apr 11^th, 2004 at 5:18am	Print Post
	Quote: I'm trying to get red on white. Steve, This will give you RED text on a WHITE background. @color(ElementName,1,7)

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Steve_in_Texas Senior Member Offline No personal text Posts: 893 Location: San Antonio Joined: Feb 21^st, 2004	Re: application changes color on its own Reply #13 - Apr 11^th, 2004 at 12:50pm	Print Post
	Thanks Carl. I assume you all found this out from trial and error? Happy Easter, Steve in Texas


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Carl Underwood Senior Member Members Offline Posts: 1351 Location: New Hampshire Joined: Mar 11^th, 2003	Re: application changes color on its own Reply #14 - Apr 11^th, 2004 at 7:57pm	Print Post
	Quote: I assume you all found this out from trial and error? Yes. 8) As you found out, the manual is incorrect.

	Carl Underwood CDU Computer Consulting LLC Epsom, New Hampshire
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