If i wanted to buy a book on basic,  what version of basic is most like Sbasic?   Qbasic, RealBasic, visual basic?   does this version of sbasic have anything to do with Karl Lunk?

well, that seems unfortunate.   You are telling me there is no college textbook,  no college coursework,  no books on the market that have anything to contribute to the development of Sesame other than the "programming Guide".    Seems like a recipe for failure.    I like what i have seen so far of sesame  but such a product will be swamped by the competition.  as a former IBM AS/400 RPG programmer,  I know the difficulty of being off the beaten path.      

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JohhnyB,

The point you make on available learning material is extremely valid. Good learning material is extremely important for users to have so they can improve there skills and build quality applications with Sesame. The good news is I have seen the rough draft copies of some of the educational materials that will be provided with the future educational classes on Sbasic and they are Awesome!

Not being a Lantican I can not speak for them, but as a user I realize they are in a tough position. Many of the first core customers I see and have spoken with who are the ones migrating from QA are not interested in learning a programming language at all. Many already are wondering why it is so much more complicated then there beloved QA. Many have not taken the time to really go through the manuals and tutorials to become somewhat proficient at using Sesame and Sbasic. These users want a very basic easy to use database that does a lot of basic things simply and easily without to many bells and whistles.

I believe Lantica has provided such a product. Sesame can be used out of the box without much fuss to accomplish many tasks. Very little learning is involved to accomplish many of the basic database features. At the same time they have laid the groundwork for users who want more features, more control and more sophisticated applications.  From a user standpoint I get the best of all worlds, a building block approach to my application. I can start with the basic and if I desire to put the effort in and learn more, I can add much more power to my application.

Unfortunately for the Lanticans this wonderful point for the users places them in a very tough spot. The basic users complain it is to complicated and the more advanced users complain it is not sophisticated enough and some of us in the middle want more documentation so we can get to the point were we can complain we need more features.

Thank you Lanticans for giving us a product that is so versatile and gives our applications the ability to grow in the future. I appreciate the hard work and incredible customer service you guys and gals give. I wish half of my employees cared  about my products and customers as much as your team has proven to me how much you all care about your products and customers. You guys and gals are the tops!

I am only one user but I know my feelings are felt by many others and with customer loyalty a great product and time you will make Sesames path the beaten path.

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I know exactly what you mean about not having enough time.  I've been involved with Sesame for a long time - as pretty much a "guinea pig" alpha tester.  I still don't know the program very well - I just have NOT had enough time on it.  (As an example, in a simple report, I can't figure out how to suppress repeating values that I've sorted and am doing a "count" of.  If I have 10 records with "Texas", I get 10 lines in my report showing "TX" and then in the next column, my value of 10.   HELP (anyone!) - how do I suppress the 10 lines of "TX"?

But my point of replying is that any time there have been totally new, innovative software products (which is what I consider Sesame, in many ways) put on the market, there was not the documentation and usually 3rd party support immediately available.  Sesame will have to survive, on its own, in the cruel world - and establish itself.  Once that is done, then the other support mechanisms will begin to become available.