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Communications Error
Dec 7th, 2005 at 8:46pm
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Quite some time ago I started a topic on what i thought were phantom users and initial indications from the users were that nothing out of the ordinary was happening.

Well just yesterday, I witnessed an error on one of the users desktops.

The application was minimized for quite some time and when they maximized it, the following Sesame error message popped up:

Error: communications error - sesame server is no longer communicating with this client.  Client will exit. 

By clicking OK, it shuts down the application but indicates that they are still logged on the server.

When they re-open the application, certain programming does not run for them.

I think (?) the message assoicated with this from the sesame log indicates "server_warning S_ENG 510562 Error:  Cannot collect client information. 

Does this shed anymore light on the subject ? i.e. whether this is Sesame issue or Microsot operating system issue ?

I would definitely like it to go away as I am constantly have to shut down the particular server running this application and re-start it and un-lock the database.

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Re: Communications Error
Reply #1 - Dec 7th, 2005 at 9:03pm
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The application was minimized for quite some time and when they maximized it, the following Sesame error message popped up:

Error: communications error - sesame server is no longer communicating with this client.  Client will exit. 


That error would appear if Sesame Server had been shut down through emergency shutdown while this client was minimized.

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When they re-open the application, certain programming does not run for them.


What programming does not run for them?

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I think (?) the message assoicated with this from the sesame log indicates "server_warning S_ENG 510562 Error:  Cannot collect client information. 


That warning in the error log means that the Sesame Server was unable to resolve the IP address of a client into the Computer name for that client. It would not cause this and is really a harmless warning. The Computer name is only used in the Server Administration notification window for user convenience. If the IP address can not be resolved into a Computer Name then the IP address is displayed instead of the computer name.

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Does this shed anymore light on the subject ? i.e. whether this is Sesame issue or Microsot operating system issue ?


If you could send me the Sesame log files from the server computer and from the client computer that could possible shed some light onto what is happening and what is causing it to happen.

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Re: Communications Error
Reply #2 - Dec 7th, 2005 at 10:56pm
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Ray:

The server was definitely not shut down.

Some examples of programming that doesn't run in this case (that I know) of are: code associated with closing the menu tree upon form entry and @calendar feature.

How do I send the files to you ?  I don't see an attach feature here

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Reply #3 - Dec 8th, 2005 at 2:26pm
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Hello Louis,

Send them in seperate e-mails to support@lantica.com and just let me know which one is from the server and which one is from the client.

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Reply #4 - Dec 9th, 2005 at 4:28pm
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Ray:

I actually sent them to erika@hammerdata.

Are you able to check her email or should I send them to you now ?

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Reply #5 - Dec 9th, 2005 at 4:55pm
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Erika will be back later today so I can get them from her this afternoon or you can send them straight to me. Your call.

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Reply #6 - Dec 9th, 2005 at 5:05pm
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Louis,

possibly, DHCP lease time expired?
  

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Reply #7 - Dec 9th, 2005 at 5:16pm
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Ray:

The DHCP - dynamic host control protocol - is this something that we can change or effect ?

We are utilizing this feature but am not sure how it works.

Any suggestions would help so I can talk to our IT.

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DHCP is a service, usually provided by a router, that tells each computer hooked up to and booted on your net what its IP address should be. There is a parameter that decides how long any one computer should get to keep its IP address before it is assigned a new one. This is called "lease time". Very often, the IP address assigned will be the same as the one that expired, but sometimes - not.

The DHCP client computer is meant to renew its lease on its IP address at 50% of the assigned lease time, thus avoiding this situation. But, if the client fails to renew its lease until after the lease has expired, the client may get assigned a new and different IP address.

Sesame is okay with DHCP, but since Sesame keeps a constant connection, changing the IP address suddenly (during the middle of a command, for instance) will look like a wire disconnect to Sesame server.
  

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Reply #9 - Dec 9th, 2005 at 6:11pm
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Louis,

Roughly what time of day on the 6th did did you witness this event?

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Reply #10 - Dec 9th, 2005 at 6:26pm
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Ray:

I am going to guess around 11 ish.  It seems to lose the connection after a couple of hours of minimizing Sesame.

Are you trying to match up to the log ?

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Reply #11 - Dec 9th, 2005 at 6:40pm
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Is the computer being actively used during this period (while Sesame was minimized)? Is it possible that the computer is going into some sort of standby or hibernate?
  

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Re: Communications Error
Reply #12 - Dec 9th, 2005 at 7:03pm
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Mark/Ray:

It turns out the computer has a screensaver and has been setup with System Standby at 20 mins.  We have taken both these features off and will test to see if it still acts up.

However, I am not so certain this will resolve because my system is set with a screensaver and Standby is set to 1 hour.

I will keep you posted.

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Reply #13 - Dec 9th, 2005 at 7:05pm
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I just tried it here as well - no problems. But we do not use DHCP. I am wondering if the DHCP lease time expired while the computer was hibernating and so could not ask for a lease renewal.
  

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Reply #14 - Dec 9th, 2005 at 7:51pm
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How about using a static IP address for those affected stations?
  



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How about using a static IP address for those affected stations?


Probably a good idea - at least for a test.
  

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