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Mar 22nd, 2014 at 11:53pm
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For those that are acquainted with Hammer Data Systems, the company that produces Sesame and provides technical support: right across the street from our headquarters, an entire block of Garrettsville burnt down today. As I am typing this it is still on fire. The fire spread from one building to another and destroyed one half of the historic district. One firefighter was treated for smoke inhalation, but otherwise there have been no casualties.

Hammer Data Systems is fine. Our building, owned by Erika is also fine, though probably a bit smoky. Things may be difficult for a short while, while the town gets back on its feet.

The picture below is from early in the fire -- the first building to be destroyed.
  

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Reply #1 - Mar 23rd, 2014 at 3:30pm
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The view from HDS this morning:
  

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Reply #2 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 4:00pm
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WOW! Glad you are all okay.

This is the type of event that will make you re-think your backup strategy -- to always have backup copies off-site.
  


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Reply #3 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 2:26pm
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I have been following this in the news since The Cow posted this and the link below is a small update from a meeting held yesterday with the people involved.

http://www.auroraadvocate.com/news%20local/2014/04/02/village-begins-healing-aft...

It is nice to see that others are offering help and support!
  

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Reply #4 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 9:25pm
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If you have ever called Lantica Technical Support, you have probably spoken to Ben Coll. Ben is an employee here at HDS, and is also the president of the Garrettsvile Area Chamber of Commerce (mentioned in the article Bob Scott posted), which is organizing the Rebuild Garrettsville campaign.

If you are interested in how it is going, we have set up a webcam here at HDS pointed at the block in question. It is available here:

http://garrettsvillearea.com/webcam.html

I've been using Sesame 3's live image capability to access real time video from the webcam.
  

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Reply #5 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 3:36am
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The Cow wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 9:25pm:
Ben is an employee here at HDS, and is also the president of the Garrettsvile Area Chamber of Commerce which is organizing the Rebuild Garrettsville campaign.


Wow, its nice to know that HDS and its staff is not only part of their community, but also helping to lead it.

If there is anything that we users can do to help please put out the word.


The Cow wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 9:25pm:
If you are interested in how it is going, we have set up a webcam here at HDS pointed at the block in question. It is available here:

http://garrettsvillearea.com/webcam.html

I've been using Sesame 3's live image capability to access real time video from the webcam.


This camera is very cool. Being able to control the view allows us to feel like we are actually standing in the building across the street.

Thanks for making it accessible to us. 
  

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Reply #6 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 2:04pm
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BOBSCOTT wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 3:36am:
The Cow wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 9:25pm:
Ben is an employee here at HDS, and is also the president of the Garrettsvile Area Chamber of Commerce which is organizing the Rebuild Garrettsville campaign.


Wow, its nice to know that HDS and its staff is not only part of their community, but also helping to lead it.


Ben is the president of the chamber of commerce. Erika (founder of HDS and Ben's boss) is the treasurer. The CC is handling the rebuild fund so that people will know there is a reputable agency organizing the effort and the money will go to the victims of the fire. Unfortunately, when a tragedy strikes, opportunists are know to take advantage.

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If you are interested in how it is going, we have set up a webcam here at HDS pointed at the block in question. It is available here:

http://garrettsvillearea.com/webcam.html

I've been using Sesame 3's live image capability to access real time video from the webcam.



This camera is very cool. Being able to control the view allows us to feel like we are actually standing in the building across the street.

Thanks for making it accessible to us. 


We had a couple of the insurance investigators come up to the third floor to take pictures. Since we had such a bird's eye view of the destroyed block across the street, it seemed like we could share it with others who might be concerned.

I wish the camera had a better CPU and a zoom capability. It really bogs down with more than a handful of people watching it.
  

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Reply #7 - Apr 8th, 2014 at 1:53pm
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Did you move/adjust the camera to a different spot in the window? We lost the ability to see left of the remaining middle structure.

It is interesting that there was destruction on the left and the right of that middle structure, but that structure remains standing, was it the only part that was mostly brick? The burned down structure looked to almost be all wood.
  

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Reply #8 - Apr 8th, 2014 at 6:40pm
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BOBSCOTT wrote on Apr 8th, 2014 at 1:53pm:
Did you move/adjust the camera to a different spot in the window? We lost the ability to see left of the remaining middle structure.

It is interesting that there was destruction on the left and the right of that middle structure, but that structure remains standing, was it the only part that was mostly brick? The burned down structure looked to almost be all wood.


Yes. It is saved by being brick. The fire started on the right side and spread to the left. Behind the brick building was a wooden addition. The fire crossed behind the brick building to the connected buildings on the left.

We set the limits on the camera a little too tight on the left. It should be better now. There is some "drift" and we have seen people manage to turn the camera to view us working at our desks.
  

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Reply #9 - Apr 10th, 2014 at 2:02pm
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Reading the news it looks like the Fire inspectors have closed the investigation and have not been able to identify the cause of the fire. Their was speculation that roof work was the culprit, however the fire department could not confirm that to be the cause.

What are you all hearing on the streets? What do you locals believe?

Have you heard if the thought is to rebuild as it was or to modify the look of the structure?

It would be kind of nice if the building section that is still standing became an entry way to the new building and it could house images of the original history of the buildings and document with pictures, the fire, the coming together of the community  and the rebuilding process.
  

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Reply #10 - Apr 10th, 2014 at 9:32pm
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BOBSCOTT wrote on Apr 10th, 2014 at 2:02pm:
Reading the news it looks like the Fire inspectors have closed the investigation and have not been able to identify the cause of the fire. Their was speculation that roof work was the culprit, however the fire department could not confirm that to be the cause.

What are you all hearing on the streets? What do you locals believe?


The locals seem to believe it has something to do with roofers, but its all rumor - so far.

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Have you heard if the thought is to rebuild as it was or to modify the look of the structure?

It would be kind of nice if the building section that is still standing became an entry way to the new building and it could house images of the original history of the buildings and document with pictures, the fire, the coming together of the community  and the rebuilding process.


The property was owned by several different land lords and housed quite a few renters. I'm not sure if there is any way to get something coherent built.
  

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Reply #11 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 2:00pm
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It seems to be moving very slow in removing the debris and cleaning up. Is it due to anything besides a shortage of time and money?

Are people still trying to go through the area prior to clean-up or something?

  

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We aren't entirely sure. The rumor is that the landowners are waiting for EPA or other bureaucratic approval before further clean up can go on.
  

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The Cow wrote on Apr 8th, 2014 at 6:40pm:
There is some "drift" and we have seen people manage to turn the camera to view us working at our desks.

Too funny.
I have to admit I had to try it once I read this. Smiley
  


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Carl Underwood wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 8:09pm:
The Cow wrote on Apr 8th, 2014 at 6:40pm:
There is some "drift" and we have seen people manage to turn the camera to view us working at our desks.

Too funny.
I have to admit I had to try it once I read this. Smiley


We move the camera around - from one window to another. Currently it isn't in an occupied office.
  

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Reply #15 - May 9th, 2014 at 2:02pm
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Clean-up looks like it is going nicely, I can't wait to start watching the Re-construction.

Any information on the streets, if the plan is to rebuild as it was or build it differently?
  

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No real information about the rebuild yet.

Currently, once they have the lot cleared, they plan to plant grass and get it looking reasonably nice for the "Summerfest" festival, and other summer events.
  

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Reply #17 - May 13th, 2014 at 3:37pm
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With all the debris almost cleaned up, it is really nice to see all those trees with the purple/pink leaves. The beauty of those trees in the background of the destruction is really something.

Mother Nature is an amazing Lady!
 
  

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It looks so different cleaned up, It must be a really interesting feeling to you all that are used to looking out the windows and seeing the big building and now seeing the open space.

I imagine your minds eye sometimes has trouble reckoning the missing building/image.
  

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It is very strange to just glance out the window and see trees where there used to just be windows and siding.

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Just a thought,

If you guys haven't yet, you should run across the street and grab a piece of the stone in that last bit of rubble. It will make a great keepsake or fundraiser item someday.

I have a brick that my dad grabbed from the rubble pile when they tore down Ebbets Field, its just a neat piece of history. I have held onto it my entire life, never gave it much thought, but as the years move on and things change, its fun to have a bit of history in your Possession.

Also have you been able to keep any of the images the camera has captured. It would be cool to see a montage of beginning of haul away to reconstruction when its done.

  

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BOBSCOTT wrote on Jun 5th, 2014 at 3:14pm:
Also have you been able to keep any of the images the camera has captured. It would be cool to see a montage of beginning of haul away to reconstruction when its done.


No - and regret that we didn't. We should start so we can get a time-lapse of the rebuild.
  

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Reply #22 - Jun 12th, 2014 at 1:43pm
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Why the new parking lines? Is that for the 4th of July event or something?

  

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Nope. Right in the middle of all this disruption, the state decided they needed to repave the street running right through the center of town. The local businesses, already hurt for parking, are very concerned.
  

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Are they blacktopping over the dirt? It is hard to tell from viewing through the camera if that is water or tar. Maybe it was raining there?
  

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Just rain, although to say that it was raining is a bit of an understatement for how much water came outta the sky the other night.

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Have you folks taken down the camera or am I just catching it at times it is off line?

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We are giving it a brief rest. Erika needed the tripod and we haven't gotten around to restoring it.

In related news:

The fence is down.

The dilapidated mill (just off camera) has been partially demolished and the remaining portion is going to be restored.

We are getting even more pizza in this town. Our sixth or seventh pizza restaurant is being built near the theater.
  

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Reply #29 - Sep 18th, 2014 at 2:31pm
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That is a great read. Thanks for posting it.

When you consider the statistics given below, (as an outsider) I can really get the impact of the amount of resources and effort people put into fighting this fire.

"an estimated 1.5 million gallons of water was pumped, and 428.5 gallons of diesel fuel was used in the 50 hours and 36 minutes the fire department was present at the scene,"

This line from Jim the barber just really made my heart ache.
"I was just thinking this was never going to be the same; it's a sudden realization that everything is totally changed and you aren't ready for that change."

(I know people will deal with the financial blow, its the emotional destruction that just may never go away that I see as the worst part.)


As someone looking in from a distance the writer really made an impact with this line, that makes it crystal clear, this was so much more than just an old building, it was a rallying point for re-development of the downtown community.

"That note of surreal devastation struck not only business owners but the residents who watched Main Street spring to life through the passion and action of their neighbors and friends."

I hope that Maschek follows through with his intentions of rebuilding something special on the property. Please keep us posted.

Any comments from you all on the ground in Garrettsville  about Maschek's current renovation on the 19th-century mill?

Is that the mill that can be seen from the back window of Hammer Data?
  

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Mike Maschek is, as always, doing a very nice job of restoring the old feed mill. It is not the one right next to our building; it is across the street from that.
  

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Here is an aerial view of the affected blocks of Garrettsville. I have marked Hammer Data's building in red. The burnt down block is marked in blue. The old feed mill that has been recently renovated is marked in green.

Most of the old feed mill was already falling down and was demolished. The front portion was renovated. The "mill" right next door to Hammer's building hasn't actually been a mill in many decades. The original mill at that site burnt down (twice) and has been rebuilt to resemble a mill. It is now, and has long been, a restaurant.
  

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Is the sign in the right front corner (looking from HDS) of the property some political poster or is it giving information about the re-building process?

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Its election advertising for local politicians and issues.
  

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Reply #34 - Dec 3rd, 2014 at 2:47pm
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I noticed that a DVD has been released of the fire as a fundraiser. (What a great idea)

Has any news of re-construction plans been released yet?

Is Ben as president of the chamber kept in the loop as far as behind the scenes developments?
  

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Reply #35 - Dec 3rd, 2014 at 3:08pm
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Ben probably knows as much as anyone in the town. But, I don't think that any plans (known or unknown) have really gelled yet. Part of the problem is that the land is owned by several different parties and they are not necessarily in concert. Also, everyone concerned agrees that brick or stone would be a superior building material, rather than wood, and both are very expensive.

There has been some effort put into acquiring grants for reconstruction. But, because the land is privately owned (for profit), grants are hard to come by. I think they should all consider "loaning" the land to the city and Garrettsville should get state and federal grants to build a new city hall / fire station / police dept. on the land. Currently the city hall is a small ranch style house a couple of blocks away from the center of town.

The owner of most of the land is also a local builder, who has a great reputation for maintaining the historical look and feel with his projects. He also seems to be very engaged in the well being of the town. He may well do something great. He did a great job with the dilapidated feed mill across the street, which will soon be a coffee house. It looks great.
  

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